Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (2024)

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Amatsu

Jammin' with whole wheat bread
  • Sep 17, 2006
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Considering that Super and Hyper Sonic are completely invincible in those forms and since in SA2 as well as other games show that Sonic can breath in space in his super and hyper form. The question is... If he takes on ANY super saiyan. Even SSJ4 Gogeta or heck even if he took em all on at once. Would Hyper Sonic reign victorious?

And no they can't just wait for him to run out of rings either. They have to completely destroy Hyper Sonic.

Oh and for those who don't know what Hyper Sonic is. He's from Sonic and Kunckles with the Sonic 3 game attached to it. If you get all 7 chaos and hyper emeralds he becomes Hyper Sonic. Which is more powerful than his Super Sonic form.

Giovanni Rild

The mods are my enemy
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #2

Aethos said:

Considering that Super and Hyper Sonic are completely invincible in those forms and since in SA2 as well as other games show that Sonic can breath in space in his super and hyper form. The question is... If he takes on ANY super saiyan. Even SSJ4 Gogeta or heck even if he took em all on at once. Would Hyper Sonic reign victorious?

And no they can't just wait for him to run out of rings either. They have to completely destroy Hyper Sonic.

This battle has been done before. Hyper Sonic isn't canon anyway

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Amatsu

Jammin' with whole wheat bread
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #3

Illuminati Gate said:

This battle has been done before. Hyper Sonic isn't cannon anyway

Oh it has? Never really seen it around.

and I don't see how it isn't canon.

Giovanni Rild

The mods are my enemy
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #4

Aethos said:

Oh it has? Never really seen it around.

and I don't see how it isn't canon.

Super Sonic and Shadow vs SSJ Goku and Vegeta

It isn't canon because SEGA said so

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omg laser pew pew!

is feeling greedy
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #5

rild

Just a nitpick but it's 'canon', not 'cannon'

They're very different things Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (6)

Zouri

Master O.P.T.
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #7

Illuminati Gate said:

This battle has been done before. Hyper Sonic isn't cannon anyway

But it is canon. You see, Sonic 3 and Knuckles is actually the continuation of Sonic 3 in every way, including story. Sonic Team didn't have enough time to put everything in Sonic 3 and Knuckles in Sonic 3, so they sent out Sonic 3 and then used the attach feature of Sonic and Knuckles to finish it. It's true.

Anyway, why haven't we seen Hyper Sonic? Because we haven't seen the Super Emeralds since then. They must be out there somewhere.

As far as this battle goes, I'll type out a longer reply later.

Final Ultima

Branding Breach
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #8

Zouri said:

Anyway, why haven't we seen Hyper Sonic? Because we haven't seen the Super Emeralds since then. They must be out there somewhere.

They have since been retconned out of the storyline completely. In exchange, the Chaos Emeralds now have a more Super Emerald-like design. Also, while Sonic 3 & Knuckles is canon, the Hyper transformation is most likely not canon, or similarly, has been completely retconned out of the storyline.

shadowlords

Doesn't want a Custom Title
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #9

sonic ftw!

Comic Book Guy

Cassandra Cain Fanboy

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  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #10

Hyper Sonic CAN die if he falls in a bottomless pit. I remember that in the games, especially in Flying Battery.

Toffeeman

I WILL EAT YOU
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #11

Comic Book Guy said:

Hyper Sonic CAN die if he falls in a bottomless pit. I remember that in the games, especially in Flying Battery.

Except that would be a fairly rediculous argument, since applying video game limits in a battle against an anime character would be retarded..

Amatsu

Jammin' with whole wheat bread
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #12

Well considering Super Sonic can only be knocked back by attacks does that mean Hyper Sonic wouldn't be affected at all by them or is he fast enough to move around them. After all ki blasts aren't all that different from the Final Hazard's lasers.

The Sentry

Banned
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #13

The Super Saiyans would win

Giovanni Rild

The mods are my enemy
  • Sep 17, 2006
  • #14

Chaos Control the Super sayin into deep space. hyper Sonic wins

Reznor

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  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #16

This is S3&K version

No chaos control.

Hyper sonic can be crushed to death. He isn't invincible. And missles stun him. Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (20)

Giovanni Rild

The mods are my enemy
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #17

Reznor said:

This is S3&K version

No chaos control.

Hyper sonic can be crushed to death. He isn't invincible. And missles stun him. Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (22)

Forgot. And getting 2-D feats are really hard.

Phenomenol

Banned
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #18

Reznor said:

This is S3&K version

No chaos control.

Hyper sonic can be crushed to death. He isn't invincible. And missles stun him. Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (24)

Yeah, people seem to forget about this .

Amatsu

Jammin' with whole wheat bread
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #19

Yeah but so could Super Sonic so what's your point?

Phenomenol

Banned
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #20

Goku is just too fast and too strong for Super Sonic! Especially with the technique called Shunkan Idou!

Endless Mike

Getting too old for this sh*t
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #21

Which is not speed. No matter how many times I have to tell you.

Besides, Chaos Control from what I've heard is better.

Falco-san

Piercing the heavens
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #22

Phenomenol said:

Goku is just too fast and too strong for Super Sonic! Especially with the technique called Shunkan Idou!

BASE Sonic goes at the speed of sound(Thx for clearing that up btw Rild) Can Goku fly at the speed of sound?

I dont even wanna know how fast Hyper Sonic can go...

And Shunkan Idou is that instant transmission? Thats not speed it....a never mind....

blacklusterseph004

ah, made you look ...
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #23

Chaos control plus near light speed velocity means that Sonic wins on speed. I'd just be concerned about what kind of damage Sonic can do to Goku SSJ3, who can take a massive amount of punishment.

CrazyMoronX

Old Man
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #24

All Goku has to do is throw him off a cliff.

Toffeeman

I WILL EAT YOU
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #25

Stop using video game limits ffs. Jesus christ.. Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (32)

CrazyMoronX

Old Man
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #26

I know of no other limits to limit him by... you might even go as far as saying he isn't completely invunerable, just pretty tough, and the weak-ass monsters he is fighting are nowhere near strong enough to actually hurt him.

And that Goku would kill him in one punch. :amazed

Toffeeman

I WILL EAT YOU
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #27

Super/Hyper Sonic can fly just fyi.

Supa Swag

Active Member
  • Sep 18, 2006
  • #28

Toffeeman said:

Super/Hyper Sonic can fly just fyi.

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Reznor

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  • Sep 19, 2006
  • #29

Toffeeman said:

Stop using video game limits ffs. Jesus christ.. Hyper Sonic (S&K3 version with infinite rings) vs any Super Saiyans (43)

Read the title.
Sonic 3 and Knuckles version = video game

If you want to use a different version, make a thread (but search for an existing thread first [/mod])

Anyway, I could understand cliffs or crushing him to death as merely a necessity of it being a video game. Regardless, missles stun him. There'd be no reason to have missles stun him if he were actually invincible. Also, the end boss of Sonic 3 can damage Super Sonic (let him grab you).

Something else to consider is that absolutes of one universe don't carry over as absolutes - statements like "invincible" are made without knowing about people from other universes.

Also, if game Sonic is faster than sound, why does the environment go so fast? Again, I could seee this being a convention needed to make it a game. But why does Robotnik run as fast? XD j/k
Neither of those are something that I'd hold against him, though, if there were any game evidence of that speed (since those instances seem like lack of though/brainfart)

My point is, you are taking comic info and adding it to the game. From the game alone, we have no reason to think that he is faster than sound or completely invincible.

Giovanni Rild

The mods are my enemy
  • Sep 19, 2006
  • #30

SEGA's word supercedes any game. And they said before that Sonic can move
fast as sound

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